Comments on: All’s fair in love and coffee? http://greenlagirl.com/2005/10/14/alls-fair-in-love-and-coffee/ Urban environmental lifestyle blog in Los Angeles Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:51:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Will Pillage For Yarn http://greenlagirl.com/2005/10/14/alls-fair-in-love-and-coffee/#comment-380 Will Pillage For Yarn Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://greenlagirl.com/?p=136#comment-380 yep yep... this is what I've been saying all along. The sticker is not the only criteria to consider. Worth it to really check out individual vendor's business practices. Have run into similar issues with tea gardens.<BR/><BR/>People can NOT say fairly traded coffee is not a business wise practice (with our wihtout the sticker) because some businesses are obviously doing well with it. It's just all about the bottom line for companies like Starbucks. I mean, come on? Like it would kill them to pay the other $.06/lb??? Plus, what they do to local coffee business (like driving it OUt of business) is inexcuseable. There are THREE within half a mile of my house. Maybe more and I haven't scouted them out. Plus two CB&TL's. <BR/><BR/>I need to go check out Tanners for FT coffee, but honestly, Synergy in Culver City serves Groundworks beans and I love that place. They make better coffee than Tanners, too. yep yep… this is what I’ve been saying all along. The sticker is not the only criteria to consider. Worth it to really check out individual vendor’s business practices. Have run into similar issues with tea gardens.

People can NOT say fairly traded coffee is not a business wise practice (with our wihtout the sticker) because some businesses are obviously doing well with it. It’s just all about the bottom line for companies like Starbucks. I mean, come on? Like it would kill them to pay the other $.06/lb??? Plus, what they do to local coffee business (like driving it OUt of business) is inexcuseable. There are THREE within half a mile of my house. Maybe more and I haven’t scouted them out. Plus two CB&TL’s.

I need to go check out Tanners for FT coffee, but honestly, Synergy in Culver City serves Groundworks beans and I love that place. They make better coffee than Tanners, too.

]]> By: City Hippy http://greenlagirl.com/2005/10/14/alls-fair-in-love-and-coffee/#comment-381 City Hippy Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://greenlagirl.com/?p=136#comment-381 Now that is a great post and clarifies the whole thing in my head!<BR/><BR/>Siel...you the brains on this challenge ok...<BR/><BR/>I can see the future...and it is awesome! As you both hint above FT is part of the issue...but the next step is consumers asking ok you are FT but what kind of company are you?<BR/><BR/>I can see an 'ethical company' certification coming out soon...now that would separate the Nestle's from the Monkey & Son's eh?<BR/><BR/>Namaste<BR/><BR/>CH Now that is a great post and clarifies the whole thing in my head!

Siel…you the brains on this challenge ok…

I can see the future…and it is awesome! As you both hint above FT is part of the issue…but the next step is consumers asking ok you are FT but what kind of company are you?

I can see an ‘ethical company’ certification coming out soon…now that would separate the Nestle’s from the Monkey & Son’s eh?

Namaste

CH

]]> By: Anonymous http://greenlagirl.com/2005/10/14/alls-fair-in-love-and-coffee/#comment-382 Anonymous Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://greenlagirl.com/?p=136#comment-382 Totally unrelated to this post, but related to a previous one:<BR/><BR/>I found a way to get rid of ants! I had tried using the hippie orange cleaner to disrupt their scent trail, but these ants had better senses of smell than that. So I walked out to my garage (about 20 yards from the house) and poured a coffee cup full of sugar on the ground. All the ants left my house within a couple of hours, and the several species of ants that showed up on Sugar Hill seemed happy. Some of them---I swear it!--- looked as though they were dancing! The hill lasted for about a month,and the ants still haven't returned.<BR/><BR/>---Anne O'Nymous Totally unrelated to this post, but related to a previous one:

I found a way to get rid of ants! I had tried using the hippie orange cleaner to disrupt their scent trail, but these ants had better senses of smell than that. So I walked out to my garage (about 20 yards from the house) and poured a coffee cup full of sugar on the ground. All the ants left my house within a couple of hours, and the several species of ants that showed up on Sugar Hill seemed happy. Some of them—I swear it!— looked as though they were dancing! The hill lasted for about a month,and the ants still haven’t returned.

—Anne O’Nymous

]]> By: Siel http://greenlagirl.com/2005/10/14/alls-fair-in-love-and-coffee/#comment-383 Siel Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://greenlagirl.com/?p=136#comment-383 Hey Pillager -- Yeah, I do think that, as things are now, concerned consumers do have to take a multi-pronged approach. Their coffee purchases should either 1. have an FT sticker, or 2. come from a company that the consumer's individually checked into. The latter is tougher, but is arguably more effective at supporting local businesses. Which is really one of the main reasons why I think more small companies should look into certification.<BR/><BR/>And CH -- Thanks for the compliments, partner :) I too kinda would like an "ethical" certification. The prob is that there are already SO MANY certification programs out there (organic, fair trade, shade grown, rainforest alliance, FTF member, etc. etc.) that I'm afraid one more label would only add to the current confusion and frustration...<BR/><BR/>Anon -- Thanks for dropping in :) The ant post you're referring to is <A HREF="http://greenlagirl.blogspot.com/2005/08/it-can-sew-it-can-cook-it-can-blog.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>. Miraculously, our ants left, sans sugar coffee -- perhaps because I started washing dishes and stuff sporatically... But I'll remember your tip for next time :) Hey Pillager — Yeah, I do think that, as things are now, concerned consumers do have to take a multi-pronged approach. Their coffee purchases should either 1. have an FT sticker, or 2. come from a company that the consumer’s individually checked into. The latter is tougher, but is arguably more effective at supporting local businesses. Which is really one of the main reasons why I think more small companies should look into certification.

And CH — Thanks for the compliments, partner :) I too kinda would like an “ethical” certification. The prob is that there are already SO MANY certification programs out there (organic, fair trade, shade grown, rainforest alliance, FTF member, etc. etc.) that I’m afraid one more label would only add to the current confusion and frustration…

Anon — Thanks for dropping in :) The ant post you’re referring to is here. Miraculously, our ants left, sans sugar coffee — perhaps because I started washing dishes and stuff sporatically… But I’ll remember your tip for next time :)

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