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	<title>Comments on: Yes, we have no Estima</title>
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		<title>By: Siel</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/2006/01/28/299/#comment-1425</link>
		<dc:creator>Siel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 09:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NC and Roger -- You guys are hilar. Have you met? You're both in the Southland --

When challenges go badly like this, sometimes I wonder if I somehow come across as mean without realizing it... Ah -- self-doubt -- But I really don't think so. I'm more likely to run out before a situation escalates into anger, and this guy just seemed to get weirdly angry for no reason. Oh well.

Maya -- Yes -- I thought about joining the knitting olympics, but got sidetracked into blogging...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NC and Roger &#8212; You guys are hilar. Have you met? You&#8217;re both in the Southland &#8211;</p>
<p>When challenges go badly like this, sometimes I wonder if I somehow come across as mean without realizing it&#8230; Ah &#8212; self-doubt &#8212; But I really don&#8217;t think so. I&#8217;m more likely to run out before a situation escalates into anger, and this guy just seemed to get weirdly angry for no reason. Oh well.</p>
<p>Maya &#8212; Yes &#8212; I thought about joining the knitting olympics, but got sidetracked into blogging&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: NC</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/2006/01/28/299/#comment-1407</link>
		<dc:creator>NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 02:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Succint, with a dollop of middle-school teacher thrown in..."--Now, that's a blog I would read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Succint, with a dollop of middle-school teacher thrown in&#8230;&#8221;&#8211;Now, that&#8217;s a blog I would read.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger, Gone Green</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/2006/01/28/299/#comment-1405</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger, Gone Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, uhm, I am NEVER mean, overtly.  Just succinct, with a dollop of middle-school teacher thrown in; it is watching their fear of having screwed up that provides my "mean" jollies.  Just yellin' at people makes them feel all self-rightious  . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, uhm, I am NEVER mean, overtly.  Just succinct, with a dollop of middle-school teacher thrown in; it is watching their fear of having screwed up that provides my &#8220;mean&#8221; jollies.  Just yellin&#8217; at people makes them feel all self-rightious  . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Siel</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/2006/01/28/299/#comment-1403</link>
		<dc:creator>Siel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the future, I'll def. try your tactic, NC. I don't want to ever get mean at the baristas, even if some aren't that nice, because it would totally defeat the purpose of the challenge. Mean challengers are prolly the biggest critique against the challenge. And certainly, I've worked a # of jobs for practical reasons -- like paying rent and getting health insurance -- even though my heart wasn't in the job. 

In any case, because the LA meeting was at this Starbucks, I have the names &#038; #s of the manager &#038; assnt manager. I'll call and ask if the barista was new and/or recently had a beloved pet puppy die or something once I get back home.

Claire -- Thanks so much for the detailed info on the way coffee works in Starbucks :) I too hope that one day soon the mermaid'll have fair trade espresso beans. Though I s'pose the first steps to just get stores to serve fair trade drip coffee during the weeks it's supposed to be brewing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the future, I&#8217;ll def. try your tactic, NC. I don&#8217;t want to ever get mean at the baristas, even if some aren&#8217;t that nice, because it would totally defeat the purpose of the challenge. Mean challengers are prolly the biggest critique against the challenge. And certainly, I&#8217;ve worked a # of jobs for practical reasons &#8212; like paying rent and getting health insurance &#8212; even though my heart wasn&#8217;t in the job. </p>
<p>In any case, because the LA meeting was at this Starbucks, I have the names &#038; #s of the manager &#038; assnt manager. I&#8217;ll call and ask if the barista was new and/or recently had a beloved pet puppy die or something once I get back home.</p>
<p>Claire &#8212; Thanks so much for the detailed info on the way coffee works in Starbucks :) I too hope that one day soon the mermaid&#8217;ll have fair trade espresso beans. Though I s&#8217;pose the first steps to just get stores to serve fair trade drip coffee during the weeks it&#8217;s supposed to be brewing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/2006/01/28/299/#comment-1402</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leah -
Espresso is a particular roast of coffee. It is much darker than the Cafe Estima.

It would technically be possible to use Estima as Espresso is used, but it would not be feasible to do at a Starbucks.  It would be easy to do on a personal espresso machine, but at Starbucks we either have an old machine where we use seperate grinders that are already full of Espresso or a new machine which has the Espresso grinders directly inside of it.  In order to use Estima instead of Espresso we would have to empty out the grinders and fill them again with Estima.  Then after the Esitma drinks were made we would have to empty it out of the girnders again.  This would be a really huge hassle and would disrupt the flow of business for quite a while.  During rushes when there are consistently ten drinks or so lined up on top of the bar to be made, it really juist would not be feasible to specially make Espresso beverages with Cafe Estima.

Brewing a french press of Estima is a little bit of a hassle, but one we baristas should be able to handle easily and without being assholes.

It would be wonderful and amazing if we would just use fair trade espresso roast. But I don't see that happening any time soon. Unfortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leah -<br />
Espresso is a particular roast of coffee. It is much darker than the Cafe Estima.</p>
<p>It would technically be possible to use Estima as Espresso is used, but it would not be feasible to do at a Starbucks.  It would be easy to do on a personal espresso machine, but at Starbucks we either have an old machine where we use seperate grinders that are already full of Espresso or a new machine which has the Espresso grinders directly inside of it.  In order to use Estima instead of Espresso we would have to empty out the grinders and fill them again with Estima.  Then after the Esitma drinks were made we would have to empty it out of the girnders again.  This would be a really huge hassle and would disrupt the flow of business for quite a while.  During rushes when there are consistently ten drinks or so lined up on top of the bar to be made, it really juist would not be feasible to specially make Espresso beverages with Cafe Estima.</p>
<p>Brewing a french press of Estima is a little bit of a hassle, but one we baristas should be able to handle easily and without being assholes.</p>
<p>It would be wonderful and amazing if we would just use fair trade espresso roast. But I don&#8217;t see that happening any time soon. Unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/2006/01/28/299/#comment-1401</link>
		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, so starbucks does do just plain, regular coffee.

Now, I'm just really confused as to why people would go to Starbucks for plain coffee that they could make themselves.  Then again, like I said, I don't drink coffee at all.  I appreciate the clarification, Claire.  I still don't think it'd be all that difficult to have some estima hanging around in a convenient spot to be ground and french pressed.

Another question: even if you can't get drip estima or french pressed estima, could they still make espresso out of it for you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, so starbucks does do just plain, regular coffee.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m just really confused as to why people would go to Starbucks for plain coffee that they could make themselves.  Then again, like I said, I don&#8217;t drink coffee at all.  I appreciate the clarification, Claire.  I still don&#8217;t think it&#8217;d be all that difficult to have some estima hanging around in a convenient spot to be ground and french pressed.</p>
<p>Another question: even if you can&#8217;t get drip estima or french pressed estima, could they still make espresso out of it for you?</p>
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		<title>By: Jasmin</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/2006/01/28/299/#comment-1400</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this is what they call progress? WTF, man?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this is what they call progress? WTF, man?</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/2006/01/28/299/#comment-1399</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 02:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leah -
Starbucks does brew regular drip coffee, as well as the espresso drinks.

There are three coffees of the week every week. There is a bold, a mild, and a decaf brewing at all times.

When someone orders regular coffee, we just have to turn around and put it under the spigot on one of the coffee pots. So when someone asks for a specific brew that isn't one of the coffees of the week it has to be made specially. The beans have to be found, then ground, then brewed for four minutes and pressed in a french press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leah -<br />
Starbucks does brew regular drip coffee, as well as the espresso drinks.</p>
<p>There are three coffees of the week every week. There is a bold, a mild, and a decaf brewing at all times.</p>
<p>When someone orders regular coffee, we just have to turn around and put it under the spigot on one of the coffee pots. So when someone asks for a specific brew that isn&#8217;t one of the coffees of the week it has to be made specially. The beans have to be found, then ground, then brewed for four minutes and pressed in a french press.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/2006/01/28/299/#comment-1398</link>
		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 02:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so, maybe I'm confused, but I thought each cup of coffee was made when you ordered it.  For example, don't they put the ground beans into a little thingy and then into the espresso machine?  Excuse the weird terminology, but I'm not a coffee person at all.  Anyway, if this is the case, would it really be that hard to get you some cafe estima and make a cup any which way you want?  

I guess the point is to say that I didn't really think Starbucks did drip/percolated coffee.  Am I wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so, maybe I&#8217;m confused, but I thought each cup of coffee was made when you ordered it.  For example, don&#8217;t they put the ground beans into a little thingy and then into the espresso machine?  Excuse the weird terminology, but I&#8217;m not a coffee person at all.  Anyway, if this is the case, would it really be that hard to get you some cafe estima and make a cup any which way you want?  </p>
<p>I guess the point is to say that I didn&#8217;t really think Starbucks did drip/percolated coffee.  Am I wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Roger, Gone Green</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/2006/01/28/299/#comment-1397</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger, Gone Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NC's right, of course. (Hanging head).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NC&#8217;s right, of course. (Hanging head).</p>
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