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	<title>Comments on: A Carless culture: The bus, part V &#8212; 12 minute map</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wad</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/2007/01/31/a-carless-culture-the-bus-part-v-12-minute-map/#comment-53574</link>
		<dc:creator>Wad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 23:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan wrote:

&lt;i&gt;Yeah I saw your post a while back about SoCaTa. Iâ€™m going to get in touch with them. The particular changes Iâ€™m most interested in are to the 183 route. Iâ€™d like to see the frequency increased around commute times at least.&lt;/i&gt;

Metro's proposing changes to 183, but it would be to eliminate the service east of Burbank.

If you are opposed to this change, you can either go in person to complain at the Van Nuys Civic Center on Tuesday, or send Metro an e-mail if you cannot attend.

See the information on metrorider.elhay.net.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan wrote:</p>
<p><i>Yeah I saw your post a while back about SoCaTa. Iâ€™m going to get in touch with them. The particular changes Iâ€™m most interested in are to the 183 route. Iâ€™d like to see the frequency increased around commute times at least.</i></p>
<p>Metro&#8217;s proposing changes to 183, but it would be to eliminate the service east of Burbank.</p>
<p>If you are opposed to this change, you can either go in person to complain at the Van Nuys Civic Center on Tuesday, or send Metro an e-mail if you cannot attend.</p>
<p>See the information on metrorider.elhay.net.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/2007/01/31/a-carless-culture-the-bus-part-v-12-minute-map/#comment-52791</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 00:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I saw your post a while back about SoCaTa.  I'm going to get in touch with them.  The particular changes I'm most interested in are to the 183 route.  I'd like to see the frequency increased around commute times at least.

There is also this annoying random walk it does through the Burbank hills.  Interestingly I saw an official proposal on the web at one point to make this change, but I wasn't able to follow up on it and it certainly hasn't happened.

In some sense I've turned this inconvenience into an advantage since in the morning I can get a 2.3 mile walk in and only lose 5 minutes, and in the afternoon I can catch a different bus and do a transfer to the 183 and sometimes cut 10 minutes to half hour off of my commute.  However, given that the car trip is only 12 minutes, it's not surprising that I'm one of the few people at my work that take the bus.

Sorry, didn't mean to get into a rant. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I saw your post a while back about SoCaTa.  I&#8217;m going to get in touch with them.  The particular changes I&#8217;m most interested in are to the 183 route.  I&#8217;d like to see the frequency increased around commute times at least.</p>
<p>There is also this annoying random walk it does through the Burbank hills.  Interestingly I saw an official proposal on the web at one point to make this change, but I wasn&#8217;t able to follow up on it and it certainly hasn&#8217;t happened.</p>
<p>In some sense I&#8217;ve turned this inconvenience into an advantage since in the morning I can get a 2.3 mile walk in and only lose 5 minutes, and in the afternoon I can catch a different bus and do a transfer to the 183 and sometimes cut 10 minutes to half hour off of my commute.  However, given that the car trip is only 12 minutes, it&#8217;s not surprising that I&#8217;m one of the few people at my work that take the bus.</p>
<p>Sorry, didn&#8217;t mean to get into a rant. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Siel</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/2007/01/31/a-carless-culture-the-bus-part-v-12-minute-map/#comment-52748</link>
		<dc:creator>Siel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephanie -- Congrats on getting down to 1 car! :)

Nathan -- The best way, it seems to me, is to work with an existing transit group like SoCaTa, Friends4Expo, Transit Coalition, etc. If you can give me what particular changes you're interested in, I can try to point you to a specific group --</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie &#8212; Congrats on getting down to 1 car! :)</p>
<p>Nathan &#8212; The best way, it seems to me, is to work with an existing transit group like SoCaTa, Friends4Expo, Transit Coalition, etc. If you can give me what particular changes you&#8217;re interested in, I can try to point you to a specific group &#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/2007/01/31/a-carless-culture-the-bus-part-v-12-minute-map/#comment-52638</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion the one biggest usability change they could make to Metro would be to make all the routes 12 (or less) minute routes.  Personally I have to take a 1 hour route every day and it's a pain in the neck.  I easily loose half an hour every day just to ensure that I don't miss the bus.

I wish I understood the criteria they use to determine when to increase the frequency of buses and how to effectively lobby for a particular change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion the one biggest usability change they could make to Metro would be to make all the routes 12 (or less) minute routes.  Personally I have to take a 1 hour route every day and it&#8217;s a pain in the neck.  I easily loose half an hour every day just to ensure that I don&#8217;t miss the bus.</p>
<p>I wish I understood the criteria they use to determine when to increase the frequency of buses and how to effectively lobby for a particular change.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/2007/01/31/a-carless-culture-the-bus-part-v-12-minute-map/#comment-52531</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neat idea! My family just went down to one car... not all that deliberately, just that one died beyond reasonable repair. Since I work at home I only drive a couple times a week anyhow. Been more than a month since I had a working car of my own and doing fine, even with two small children.

Doctor's appointments and such will require a bit more thought than before, but other than that things look promising for staying this way a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neat idea! My family just went down to one car&#8230; not all that deliberately, just that one died beyond reasonable repair. Since I work at home I only drive a couple times a week anyhow. Been more than a month since I had a working car of my own and doing fine, even with two small children.</p>
<p>Doctor&#8217;s appointments and such will require a bit more thought than before, but other than that things look promising for staying this way a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great idea!  I could have used one of these on my last trip to LA.  I wish the SF Bay Area had one of these...or do they??  Perhaps I should do my homework.  Thanks Siel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great idea!  I could have used one of these on my last trip to LA.  I wish the SF Bay Area had one of these&#8230;or do they??  Perhaps I should do my homework.  Thanks Siel.</p>
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