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		<title>By: Siel</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/apologies-and-regrets-and-green-web-hosting/comment-page-1/#comment-393386</link>
		<dc:creator>Siel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odd that this comment stream&#039;s become so much about Thinkhost, who I&#039;ve never been a client of and thus have nothing much to say about....

In any case -- I&#039;ve been with the solar-powered Aiso.net now for 1.5 years, and despite occasional downtimes, have been overall v. happy with the service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd that this comment stream&#8217;s become so much about Thinkhost, who I&#8217;ve never been a client of and thus have nothing much to say about&#8230;.</p>
<p>In any case &#8212; I&#8217;ve been with the solar-powered Aiso.net now for 1.5 years, and despite occasional downtimes, have been overall v. happy with the service.</p>
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		<title>By: zzz</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/apologies-and-regrets-and-green-web-hosting/comment-page-1/#comment-393378</link>
		<dc:creator>zzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We too had a website on Thinkhost 2 or 3 years ago, and their support was pathetic. We did not mind waiting for 24-48 hours for a reply, but enough is enough. It was never their fault even if we had a very &quot;static&quot; website. Their servers were down too often. And then, when we really were having problems, the threatening words started as we were quite furious with all their downtime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We too had a website on Thinkhost 2 or 3 years ago, and their support was pathetic. We did not mind waiting for 24-48 hours for a reply, but enough is enough. It was never their fault even if we had a very &#8220;static&#8221; website. Their servers were down too often. And then, when we really were having problems, the threatening words started as we were quite furious with all their downtime.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Lyle</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/apologies-and-regrets-and-green-web-hosting/comment-page-1/#comment-366393</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Lyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thinkhost-sucks.com is my site.

I stand by absolutely everything on it.  My experience there was absolutely awful, probably the least competent service I have seen in any business in my entire life.

But that was a year or two ago now...maybe they&#039;ve improved...possibly.

As for their love of free speech, you should have seen the whiny, vaguely threatening letters they sent me.  Hah!

I have had reasonably good experience with HostGator, but they were quick, but not helpful.  I had great service from orcwebhosting.com, but there was a time zone difference, and I needed 24x7 support for some customers, so I moved to Innohosting, which has been phenomenal.

I&#039;m raw-vegan, work at home, drive a metro, recycle fiendishly, and support the Arbor Day Foundation.  Like at least one other poster, I would rather have hosting that works, and hug trees and worship dirt on my own time and dime.

If you want to be green, go vegan.  You&#039;ll save way more resources than worrying about a couple of KW for your fraction of a server per year.  Seriously...there are lots of carbon calculators on the &#039;net.

Best of Luck, everybody!
Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thinkhost-sucks.com is my site.</p>
<p>I stand by absolutely everything on it.  My experience there was absolutely awful, probably the least competent service I have seen in any business in my entire life.</p>
<p>But that was a year or two ago now&#8230;maybe they&#8217;ve improved&#8230;possibly.</p>
<p>As for their love of free speech, you should have seen the whiny, vaguely threatening letters they sent me.  Hah!</p>
<p>I have had reasonably good experience with HostGator, but they were quick, but not helpful.  I had great service from orcwebhosting.com, but there was a time zone difference, and I needed 24&#215;7 support for some customers, so I moved to Innohosting, which has been phenomenal.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m raw-vegan, work at home, drive a metro, recycle fiendishly, and support the Arbor Day Foundation.  Like at least one other poster, I would rather have hosting that works, and hug trees and worship dirt on my own time and dime.</p>
<p>If you want to be green, go vegan.  You&#8217;ll save way more resources than worrying about a couple of KW for your fraction of a server per year.  Seriously&#8230;there are lots of carbon calculators on the &#8216;net.</p>
<p>Best of Luck, everybody!<br />
Ken</p>
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		<title>By: xxx</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/apologies-and-regrets-and-green-web-hosting/comment-page-1/#comment-238123</link>
		<dc:creator>xxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinkhost has done it again, I lost two hosting customers this weekend! Hooray!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinkhost has done it again, I lost two hosting customers this weekend! Hooray!</p>
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		<title>By: The Cubelodyte</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/apologies-and-regrets-and-green-web-hosting/comment-page-1/#comment-225201</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cubelodyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bah! I&#039;m &lt;a href=&quot;http://cubelodyte.com/2006/11/13/the-last-straw/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;never going back&lt;/a&gt; to Thinkhost. My current hosting service might be burning coal tar in the hollowed-out skulls of baby whales, for all I know, but their uptime is far superior to Thinkhost. 

Bah, I say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bah! I&#8217;m <a href="http://cubelodyte.com/2006/11/13/the-last-straw/" rel="nofollow">never going back</a> to Thinkhost. My current hosting service might be burning coal tar in the hollowed-out skulls of baby whales, for all I know, but their uptime is far superior to Thinkhost. </p>
<p>Bah, I say!</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/apologies-and-regrets-and-green-web-hosting/comment-page-1/#comment-81505</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 17:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey greenlagirl...I came across this when doing a search about how you talked about getting green credits for yourself and I thought this might be something I could do too for myself...you might find this interesting...this post about how green credits don&#039;t help the environment as much as everyone thinks they do.... www.tomrafteryit.net/a-carbon-neutral-data-centre#comment-105472</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey greenlagirl&#8230;I came across this when doing a search about how you talked about getting green credits for yourself and I thought this might be something I could do too for myself&#8230;you might find this interesting&#8230;this post about how green credits don&#8217;t help the environment as much as everyone thinks they do&#8230;. <a href="http://www.tomrafteryit.net/a-carbon-neutral-data-centre#comment-105472" rel="nofollow">http://www.tomrafteryit.net/a-carbon-neutral-data-centre#comment-105472</a></p>
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		<title>By: Heapmaster</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/apologies-and-regrets-and-green-web-hosting/comment-page-1/#comment-81073</link>
		<dc:creator>Heapmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 15:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry to hear about the issue you had with Sustainable. Check out hosting at www.aiso.net as they are up all the time. Check out their testimonial page to see what clients think of them as I am on there too. I have been with them for many years and they are extremely helpful. They are the only hosting company 100% powered by their own on site solar system.  Support is fantastic and they always treat me like I am their only client.  They actually answer the phone and support email is excellent. I can&#039;t remember in the years I have been with them of my site ever being down. Usually the problems are self induced and they are quick to help solve my issues when I create them. Check out their live solar cam they have on the front of their site it is really cool. I am just so happy to be with the best hosting service around and I am proud to say my site is powered by real 100% solar energy and not green credits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry to hear about the issue you had with Sustainable. Check out hosting at <a href="http://www.aiso.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.aiso.net</a> as they are up all the time. Check out their testimonial page to see what clients think of them as I am on there too. I have been with them for many years and they are extremely helpful. They are the only hosting company 100% powered by their own on site solar system.  Support is fantastic and they always treat me like I am their only client.  They actually answer the phone and support email is excellent. I can&#8217;t remember in the years I have been with them of my site ever being down. Usually the problems are self induced and they are quick to help solve my issues when I create them. Check out their live solar cam they have on the front of their site it is really cool. I am just so happy to be with the best hosting service around and I am proud to say my site is powered by real 100% solar energy and not green credits.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bloch</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/apologies-and-regrets-and-green-web-hosting/comment-page-1/#comment-81016</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bloch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 08:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucy, I&#039;m very sorry to hear you weren&#039;t impressed with ThinkHost - if you&#039;d like to contact me via mbloch@thinkhost.com; I&#039;d really like to understand more of what disappointed you and the circumstances behind the downtime you experienced. 

Unfortunately you haven&#039;t left your URL in your post, so I couldn&#039;t look into this immediately and contact you. GreenLAGirl, I hope you don&#039;t mind me addressing Lucy&#039;s post in this thread.

As for the ThinkHost-Sucks.com site; I notice it&#039;s one page written anonymously :). Most high-profile hosts and other companies you&#039;ll find will have a companion &quot;sucks&quot; site - we&#039;ve been aware of the existence of this one for quite a while. It just takes one upset person with a few bucks for domain registration to create something like that. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing and something we actively support :).

But, with all due respect, that anonymous site is hardly proof of our general quality. Do we experience downtime? Sure, all hosts do; but our average uptime is pretty impressive and if we mess up, we do try to learn from the experience and apply those lessons. For instance, given our substantial growth in recent times, we&#039;ve added more staff and better coverage to further decrease support response times.

Even in this age of high technology and regardless of our sincere commitment to and passion for a greener, more just world and being the best host we can possibly be - we are human and yes, we make mistakes from time to time. 

Running a web host service is quite a challenge; technology is constantly evolving, demands and expectations are constantly increasing accompanied by pressure to maintain pricing points that folks can afford. It can get rather intense behind the scenes of a web hosting company, but thanks to a strong team of passionate people, we&#039;ve been meeting the challenges since 1999 - whereas *many* others have fallen by the wayside. We&#039;re in this for the long haul.

Again, I&#039;m certainly not suggesting that you didn&#039;t experience downtime or that we didn&#039;t handle a situation as well as we could have, but if you&#039;d like to write to me about your experiences at the email address I mentioned, I would be most appreciative as you could probably provide me with some valuable feedback to act on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucy, I&#8217;m very sorry to hear you weren&#8217;t impressed with ThinkHost &#8211; if you&#8217;d like to contact me via <a href="mailto:mbloch@thinkhost.com">mbloch@thinkhost.com</a>; I&#8217;d really like to understand more of what disappointed you and the circumstances behind the downtime you experienced. </p>
<p>Unfortunately you haven&#8217;t left your URL in your post, so I couldn&#8217;t look into this immediately and contact you. GreenLAGirl, I hope you don&#8217;t mind me addressing Lucy&#8217;s post in this thread.</p>
<p>As for the ThinkHost-Sucks.com site; I notice it&#8217;s one page written anonymously :). Most high-profile hosts and other companies you&#8217;ll find will have a companion &#8220;sucks&#8221; site &#8211; we&#8217;ve been aware of the existence of this one for quite a while. It just takes one upset person with a few bucks for domain registration to create something like that. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing and something we actively support :).</p>
<p>But, with all due respect, that anonymous site is hardly proof of our general quality. Do we experience downtime? Sure, all hosts do; but our average uptime is pretty impressive and if we mess up, we do try to learn from the experience and apply those lessons. For instance, given our substantial growth in recent times, we&#8217;ve added more staff and better coverage to further decrease support response times.</p>
<p>Even in this age of high technology and regardless of our sincere commitment to and passion for a greener, more just world and being the best host we can possibly be &#8211; we are human and yes, we make mistakes from time to time. </p>
<p>Running a web host service is quite a challenge; technology is constantly evolving, demands and expectations are constantly increasing accompanied by pressure to maintain pricing points that folks can afford. It can get rather intense behind the scenes of a web hosting company, but thanks to a strong team of passionate people, we&#8217;ve been meeting the challenges since 1999 &#8211; whereas *many* others have fallen by the wayside. We&#8217;re in this for the long haul.</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m certainly not suggesting that you didn&#8217;t experience downtime or that we didn&#8217;t handle a situation as well as we could have, but if you&#8217;d like to write to me about your experiences at the email address I mentioned, I would be most appreciative as you could probably provide me with some valuable feedback to act on.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/apologies-and-regrets-and-green-web-hosting/comment-page-1/#comment-81006</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 07:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also just a note, if you think im lying, take a look at this web site www.thinkhost-sucks.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also just a note, if you think im lying, take a look at this web site <a href="http://www.thinkhost-sucks.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thinkhost-sucks.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/apologies-and-regrets-and-green-web-hosting/comment-page-1/#comment-80999</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 07:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldnt sign up with Thinkhost, Sustainable Websites or any of the others, both of them have had my site down and their support is bad, I have been with them all. I have since moved my site over with AISO.Net and they have never been down once, plus they get back to you for support and you can even call them!...give them a look at www.aiso.net...i recommend them, plus they are solar powered too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldnt sign up with Thinkhost, Sustainable Websites or any of the others, both of them have had my site down and their support is bad, I have been with them all. I have since moved my site over with AISO.Net and they have never been down once, plus they get back to you for support and you can even call them!&#8230;give them a look at <a href="http://www.aiso.net...i" rel="nofollow">http://www.aiso.net&#8230;i</a> recommend them, plus they are solar powered too.</p>
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