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	<title>Comments on: Book Review: Cooking Green &#8212; Go eco by never learning to bake</title>
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		<title>By: Siel</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/book-review-cooking-green-go-eco-by-never-learning-to-bake/comment-page-1/#comment-443545</link>
		<dc:creator>Siel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at least you&#039;re v. consistent in your eco-actions / beliefs (as in no cellys OR microwaves). A lot of people are anti just one or the other, which I find odd :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at least you&#8217;re v. consistent in your eco-actions / beliefs (as in no cellys OR microwaves). A lot of people are anti just one or the other, which I find odd :)</p>
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		<title>By: Zack</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/book-review-cooking-green-go-eco-by-never-learning-to-bake/comment-page-1/#comment-442968</link>
		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 07:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually hate cell phones.  :/

No, people who don&#039;t subscribe to a liberal(centrist), modernist, convenient, environmentalist worldview are not kneejerk alarmists.  They just share a different philosophy.  And debate within &quot;progressive&quot; circles is healthy.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually hate cell phones.  :/</p>
<p>No, people who don&#8217;t subscribe to a liberal(centrist), modernist, convenient, environmentalist worldview are not kneejerk alarmists.  They just share a different philosophy.  And debate within &#8220;progressive&#8221; circles is healthy.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Siel</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/book-review-cooking-green-go-eco-by-never-learning-to-bake/comment-page-1/#comment-442911</link>
		<dc:creator>Siel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 01:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*shrug* &quot;Necessities&quot; seem to depend a lot on individual interpretation. I&#039;m guessing you have a cell phone, for example -- something that definitely wasn&#039;t a necessity 10 years ago and something many people (prolly a lot of crossover in this population with people who shun microwaves) still don&#039;t think is necessary. After all, we know for a fact cellys contain toxic materials -- and the jury&#039;s still out on exactly what effect the things have on our long-term health. 

Microwaves and cell phones actually have a lot in common in this respect -- so if you use a celly, you might consider the similarities the next time you&#039;re tempted to type &quot;FAIL. That’s fraudulaent, new-wave environmenalism&quot; -- whether directed at me or someone else :P 

The point, I think, is to try to act in a way that&#039;s prudent while weighing potential risks and consequences of our decisions alongside efforts to lead a relatively normal, fulfilling life -- vs. having kneejerk or alarmist reactions to new(ish) technologies. With regard to microwaves, I think Umbra&#039;s advice is v. prudent: take advantage of the appliance&#039;s energy-efficiency -- and also take precautions for your health.

WTF is new-wave environmentalism anyway? It sounds fun -- planting trees while listening to Depeche Mode?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*shrug* &#8220;Necessities&#8221; seem to depend a lot on individual interpretation. I&#8217;m guessing you have a cell phone, for example &#8212; something that definitely wasn&#8217;t a necessity 10 years ago and something many people (prolly a lot of crossover in this population with people who shun microwaves) still don&#8217;t think is necessary. After all, we know for a fact cellys contain toxic materials &#8212; and the jury&#8217;s still out on exactly what effect the things have on our long-term health. </p>
<p>Microwaves and cell phones actually have a lot in common in this respect &#8212; so if you use a celly, you might consider the similarities the next time you&#8217;re tempted to type &#8220;FAIL. That’s fraudulaent, new-wave environmenalism&#8221; &#8212; whether directed at me or someone else :P </p>
<p>The point, I think, is to try to act in a way that&#8217;s prudent while weighing potential risks and consequences of our decisions alongside efforts to lead a relatively normal, fulfilling life &#8212; vs. having kneejerk or alarmist reactions to new(ish) technologies. With regard to microwaves, I think Umbra&#8217;s advice is v. prudent: take advantage of the appliance&#8217;s energy-efficiency &#8212; and also take precautions for your health.</p>
<p>WTF is new-wave environmentalism anyway? It sounds fun &#8212; planting trees while listening to Depeche Mode?</p>
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		<title>By: Zack</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/book-review-cooking-green-go-eco-by-never-learning-to-bake/comment-page-1/#comment-442814</link>
		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 13:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That came across rather harsh, Siel.  :)

But know that my criticism was named at the author of the book, not you.  And I wouldn&#039;t call any of this alarmist.

No, there are no &quot;rules&quot;.  But we all need to be aware of &quot;greenwashing&quot;, especially as it relates to modern consumer products that are hardly necessities.   &quot;Green&quot; cell phones are a great example we&#039;ll all be hearing about (ie. marketed) soon.

Keep up the good work, and thanks for entertaining alternative &quot;green&quot; opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That came across rather harsh, Siel.  :)</p>
<p>But know that my criticism was named at the author of the book, not you.  And I wouldn&#8217;t call any of this alarmist.</p>
<p>No, there are no &#8220;rules&#8221;.  But we all need to be aware of &#8220;greenwashing&#8221;, especially as it relates to modern consumer products that are hardly necessities.   &#8220;Green&#8221; cell phones are a great example we&#8217;ll all be hearing about (ie. marketed) soon.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work, and thanks for entertaining alternative &#8220;green&#8221; opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Siel</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/book-review-cooking-green-go-eco-by-never-learning-to-bake/comment-page-1/#comment-442661</link>
		<dc:creator>Siel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 01:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zack -- Your commen made me LOL. Do you own the roots of this movement and make its rules? Are memberships available? :P

Anyway -- With accusations of fraudulence, it&#039;s often helpful to name some reasons why. I suspect I know what they are, esp. as I&#039;ve had one other person email me with a similarly alarmist, unsubstanciated comment. In the meantime, I&#039;ll leave you with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.grist.org/article/umbra-microwaves/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Umbra&#039;s more sane take on microwaves&lt;/a&gt;.

Glad I could help, Katrina!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zack &#8212; Your commen made me LOL. Do you own the roots of this movement and make its rules? Are memberships available? :P</p>
<p>Anyway &#8212; With accusations of fraudulence, it&#8217;s often helpful to name some reasons why. I suspect I know what they are, esp. as I&#8217;ve had one other person email me with a similarly alarmist, unsubstanciated comment. In the meantime, I&#8217;ll leave you with <a href="http://www.grist.org/article/umbra-microwaves/" rel="nofollow">Umbra&#8217;s more sane take on microwaves</a>.</p>
<p>Glad I could help, Katrina!</p>
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		<title>By: Katrina</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/book-review-cooking-green-go-eco-by-never-learning-to-bake/comment-page-1/#comment-442614</link>
		<dc:creator>Katrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 21:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the fantastic review. I look forward to reading it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the fantastic review. I look forward to reading it!</p>
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		<title>By: Zack</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/book-review-cooking-green-go-eco-by-never-learning-to-bake/comment-page-1/#comment-442574</link>
		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 18:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do look forward to reading.  However, allow me to take umbrage with you this:

&quot;For example, environmentalists should be embracing the efficiency of the microwave instead of relying solely on the conventional oven.&quot;

FAIL. That&#039;s fraudulaent, new-wave environmenalism, which shares nothing in common with the roots of this movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do look forward to reading.  However, allow me to take umbrage with you this:</p>
<p>&#8220;For example, environmentalists should be embracing the efficiency of the microwave instead of relying solely on the conventional oven.&#8221;</p>
<p>FAIL. That&#8217;s fraudulaent, new-wave environmenalism, which shares nothing in common with the roots of this movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Siel</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/book-review-cooking-green-go-eco-by-never-learning-to-bake/comment-page-1/#comment-415838</link>
		<dc:creator>Siel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M -- I recommend reading the book. You seem to be comparing apples and oranges a lot in your comment -- No one&#039;s recommending &quot;tossing the multiple layers of packaging involved with frozen meals&quot; into anything, for example.

Cooking Green has a lot of tips for, say, starting something in the microwave and finishing it in other appliances to, say, keep sweet potato fries yummily crunchy, etc. That&#039;s not to say your current cooking methods aren&#039;t already quite efficient compared to most people -- you might just get some additional ideas for further greening :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M &#8212; I recommend reading the book. You seem to be comparing apples and oranges a lot in your comment &#8212; No one&#8217;s recommending &#8220;tossing the multiple layers of packaging involved with frozen meals&#8221; into anything, for example.</p>
<p>Cooking Green has a lot of tips for, say, starting something in the microwave and finishing it in other appliances to, say, keep sweet potato fries yummily crunchy, etc. That&#8217;s not to say your current cooking methods aren&#8217;t already quite efficient compared to most people &#8212; you might just get some additional ideas for further greening :)</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/book-review-cooking-green-go-eco-by-never-learning-to-bake/comment-page-1/#comment-415774</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I&#039;ll have to read the book, but I don&#039;t know about this. It seems like some of the issues would have a different outcome depending on the whole big picture. I personally don&#039;t use my heater, at all. The pilot light isn&#039;t even on. I do however use my oven to cook things, especially on cooler days as a way to end up with food as well as warm my apartment. I generally stay away from my oven once summer time rolls around.

Some things taste ok when warmed in the microwave, but other things are pretty gross. If someone is just warming up prepackaged microwaveable meals and possibly tossing the multiple layers of packaging involved with frozen meals, is that better than making something from scratch on your stove? Does it really use less energy overall for me to go to a store, purchase a loaf of bread baked by someone else, bring it back in some sort of packaging and then eat it than just making the bread at home if I also use the warmed over for other tasks (like roasting squash or a head of garlic) at the same time? Frankly based on the way I currently cook, my electricity bill has never been over $20 a month and my gas bill has never been over $9 a month (and they usually aren&#039;t even that high).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;ll have to read the book, but I don&#8217;t know about this. It seems like some of the issues would have a different outcome depending on the whole big picture. I personally don&#8217;t use my heater, at all. The pilot light isn&#8217;t even on. I do however use my oven to cook things, especially on cooler days as a way to end up with food as well as warm my apartment. I generally stay away from my oven once summer time rolls around.</p>
<p>Some things taste ok when warmed in the microwave, but other things are pretty gross. If someone is just warming up prepackaged microwaveable meals and possibly tossing the multiple layers of packaging involved with frozen meals, is that better than making something from scratch on your stove? Does it really use less energy overall for me to go to a store, purchase a loaf of bread baked by someone else, bring it back in some sort of packaging and then eat it than just making the bread at home if I also use the warmed over for other tasks (like roasting squash or a head of garlic) at the same time? Frankly based on the way I currently cook, my electricity bill has never been over $20 a month and my gas bill has never been over $9 a month (and they usually aren&#8217;t even that high).</p>
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		<title>By: littlem</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/book-review-cooking-green-go-eco-by-never-learning-to-bake/comment-page-1/#comment-415686</link>
		<dc:creator>littlem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the recommendation. 

Conscious Cook (http://gustoso.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/conscious-cook/) is another book that deals with ways to reduce your carbon footprint in the kitchen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the recommendation. </p>
<p>Conscious Cook (<a href="http://gustoso.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/conscious-cook/" rel="nofollow">http://gustoso.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/conscious-cook/</a>) is another book that deals with ways to reduce your carbon footprint in the kitchen.</p>
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