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	<title>Comments on: CFLs = less mercury than regular bulbs</title>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/cfls-less-mercury-than-regular-bulbs/comment-page-1/#comment-80861</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 16:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Siel! I can&#039;t tell you how many emails we get over at LowImpactLiving.com from people saying they can&#039;t/shouldn&#039;t get CFLs because of the &quot;mercury problem&quot;. Sometimes I feel people will look for any excuse to support their inertia.

You go green girl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Siel! I can&#8217;t tell you how many emails we get over at LowImpactLiving.com from people saying they can&#8217;t/shouldn&#8217;t get CFLs because of the &#8220;mercury problem&#8221;. Sometimes I feel people will look for any excuse to support their inertia.</p>
<p>You go green girl.</p>
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		<title>By: Siel</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/cfls-less-mercury-than-regular-bulbs/comment-page-1/#comment-80756</link>
		<dc:creator>Siel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 07:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger -- Incandescents would be a better choice ONLY if you decided to crush your CFL bulb and bury it in your backyard. If you dispose of yr CFLs sanely, then it&#039;s always the better choice :P Kudos for going wind / solar though --

Rafi -- Totally agree we need more educational efforts out there -- and not just educational efforts, but just simpler mechanisms for proper disposal.

Dude -- in 1994 I was still a minor and didn&#039;t get to pick out my own lightbulbs --</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger &#8212; Incandescents would be a better choice ONLY if you decided to crush your CFL bulb and bury it in your backyard. If you dispose of yr CFLs sanely, then it&#8217;s always the better choice :P Kudos for going wind / solar though &#8211;</p>
<p>Rafi &#8212; Totally agree we need more educational efforts out there &#8212; and not just educational efforts, but just simpler mechanisms for proper disposal.</p>
<p>Dude &#8212; in 1994 I was still a minor and didn&#8217;t get to pick out my own lightbulbs &#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: don hosek</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/cfls-less-mercury-than-regular-bulbs/comment-page-1/#comment-80724</link>
		<dc:creator>don hosek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 03:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2000? I have CFLs that date back to 1994.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2000? I have CFLs that date back to 1994.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafi</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/cfls-less-mercury-than-regular-bulbs/comment-page-1/#comment-80662</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 21:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As one of the buggers, I think this is a great little analysis you did.

But, I would still say that widespread distribution of CFLs without a public education campaign (and an effective redemption system) is still asking for a whole lot of trouble. It&#039;ll be like MTBE all over again. 

I want a waste management plan, that&#039;s all.

I would never advise someone NOT to get a CFL. But they need to know what to do with it if it breaks or burns out (albeit, in several years from now).

I guess I&#039;m most worried about a tendency I see in today&#039;s environmental movement that pretends there are simple solutions to all our problems. 

A few examples: 
-Carbon offsets don&#039;t really reduce your carbon footprint
-Hybrid cars still create smog and congestion
-Even electric cars generate smog, unless you are charging from nuclear, solar, wind, or hydro power (and these all have environmental consquences too).
-Consumerism generates waste, even if you are consuming recycled, organic, fair-trade stuff.
-Building &quot;green&quot; buildings, which are part of a sprawling subdivision in what used to be open-space (Hello, UC Merced!).

It&#039;s the difference between having the tools to be green (a hybrid car, a CFL), and knowing how to use them (carpool, don&#039;t leave the lights on all the time).

I am turning into a negative nancy here, and I don&#039;t want to pretend that each of those things mentioned above aren&#039;t steps in the right direction. But I see them more as partial mitigations for bad behavior, not real improvements. And some things you simply cannot mitigate.


I have much more hope for your car-free life and 100-mile diet, which are REAL lifestyle changes and have IMMEDIATE impact on the environment. I wish those ideas were as popular as CFLs....

--Rafi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one of the buggers, I think this is a great little analysis you did.</p>
<p>But, I would still say that widespread distribution of CFLs without a public education campaign (and an effective redemption system) is still asking for a whole lot of trouble. It&#8217;ll be like MTBE all over again. </p>
<p>I want a waste management plan, that&#8217;s all.</p>
<p>I would never advise someone NOT to get a CFL. But they need to know what to do with it if it breaks or burns out (albeit, in several years from now).</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m most worried about a tendency I see in today&#8217;s environmental movement that pretends there are simple solutions to all our problems. </p>
<p>A few examples:<br />
-Carbon offsets don&#8217;t really reduce your carbon footprint<br />
-Hybrid cars still create smog and congestion<br />
-Even electric cars generate smog, unless you are charging from nuclear, solar, wind, or hydro power (and these all have environmental consquences too).<br />
-Consumerism generates waste, even if you are consuming recycled, organic, fair-trade stuff.<br />
-Building &#8220;green&#8221; buildings, which are part of a sprawling subdivision in what used to be open-space (Hello, UC Merced!).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the difference between having the tools to be green (a hybrid car, a CFL), and knowing how to use them (carpool, don&#8217;t leave the lights on all the time).</p>
<p>I am turning into a negative nancy here, and I don&#8217;t want to pretend that each of those things mentioned above aren&#8217;t steps in the right direction. But I see them more as partial mitigations for bad behavior, not real improvements. And some things you simply cannot mitigate.</p>
<p>I have much more hope for your car-free life and 100-mile diet, which are REAL lifestyle changes and have IMMEDIATE impact on the environment. I wish those ideas were as popular as CFLs&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8211;Rafi</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/cfls-less-mercury-than-regular-bulbs/comment-page-1/#comment-80627</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 18:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careful Siel, you might get &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thegoodhuman.com/2007/05/03/a-response-to-mercury-levels-in-cfls-and-an-angry-comment/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;comments like the one I got&lt;/a&gt; when I talked about this yesterday.  He might come back in 48 hours!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful Siel, you might get <a href="http://www.thegoodhuman.com/2007/05/03/a-response-to-mercury-levels-in-cfls-and-an-angry-comment/" rel="nofollow">comments like the one I got</a> when I talked about this yesterday.  He might come back in 48 hours!</p>
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		<title>By: Roger, Gone Green</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/cfls-less-mercury-than-regular-bulbs/comment-page-1/#comment-80622</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger, Gone Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 18:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your graph suggests that, if one supplies 100% of one&#039;s electricity from solar and wind (as I do) that incandescent would be the better choice . . .  And since ANYONE in the City of Pasadena can have 100% wind for about $12 per month extra . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your graph suggests that, if one supplies 100% of one&#8217;s electricity from solar and wind (as I do) that incandescent would be the better choice . . .  And since ANYONE in the City of Pasadena can have 100% wind for about $12 per month extra . . .</p>
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