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		<title>By: Siel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info re: the differences between the two rail lines, Tim. Suddenly, Measure R sounds like very little money -- though getting it means we have better chance at getting more federal funding, which&#039;ll hopefully be a lot more, yes?

Gary -- By upper management, do you mean the Metro board? Or other people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info re: the differences between the two rail lines, Tim. Suddenly, Measure R sounds like very little money &#8212; though getting it means we have better chance at getting more federal funding, which&#8217;ll hopefully be a lot more, yes?</p>
<p>Gary &#8212; By upper management, do you mean the Metro board? Or other people?</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Kavanagh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Kavanagh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also upper management at Metro is sadly rather incompetent, and advocates for transit will need to play watch dog to make sure things are done right. Federal matching dollars will be critical to getting the subway built in a timely fashion, and hopefully with Obama creating a new office for urban issues, and a democratic majority in both houses, we can get the subway before we&#039;re all retired. Time for transit advocates to counter the highway lobby for a change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also upper management at Metro is sadly rather incompetent, and advocates for transit will need to play watch dog to make sure things are done right. Federal matching dollars will be critical to getting the subway built in a timely fashion, and hopefully with Obama creating a new office for urban issues, and a democratic majority in both houses, we can get the subway before we&#8217;re all retired. Time for transit advocates to counter the highway lobby for a change.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Buchheim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Buchheim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a few notes on subway vs high-speed rail

a) Building a subway is always very expensive. It will be especially expensive when building it through an area which has pockets of natural gas and petroleum.  (I think Metro now has the tunneling )  Laying track above ground is normally much cheaper, although laying it with the precision needed for safe operation of high-speed trains may add to the cost.  (I haven&#039;t looked into that.)

b) The high speed rail will get $9 billion all at once through a bond.  (It will need at least $35 billion in private funding to actually pay the full cost of construction.)  Measure R only brings in about one billion per year, only a small part of which goes towards the subway.</description>
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<p>a) Building a subway is always very expensive. It will be especially expensive when building it through an area which has pockets of natural gas and petroleum.  (I think Metro now has the tunneling )  Laying track above ground is normally much cheaper, although laying it with the precision needed for safe operation of high-speed trains may add to the cost.  (I haven&#8217;t looked into that.)</p>
<p>b) The high speed rail will get $9 billion all at once through a bond.  (It will need at least $35 billion in private funding to actually pay the full cost of construction.)  Measure R only brings in about one billion per year, only a small part of which goes towards the subway.</p>
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