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		<title>By: Siel</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/clicklist-sex-starved-spouses-and-other-old-news/comment-page-1/#comment-449850</link>
		<dc:creator>Siel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 01:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who missed the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200907/divorce&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tsing Loh article, here it is&lt;/a&gt; in The Atlantic. She&#039;s had an affair and is getting divorced -- and recommends you not get married:

&quot;To work, to parent, to housekeep, to be the ones who schedule “date night,” only to be reprimanded in the home by male kitchen bitches, and then, in the bedroom, to be ignored—it’s a bum deal.&quot;

I&#039;m pretty sure she said what you (peterb) quoted tongue in cheek -- and in fact if you read the article, she provides pretty good proof about how it is in fact a societal trend. I think the point she&#039;s making is that yes, marriage takes work -- but is it worth the work it takes? 

She cites a Rutgers study that says only 38 percent of married people in America describe themselves as happy. The study I cite above says fewer than half are getting laid. If getting married means you&#039;re most likely to end up unhappy and, barring an affair, practically celibate, then why take the leap? 

I think she makes a pretty damn good point -- and that she&#039;s actually not doing what you say you dislike: plunging headlong into another marriage. In fact, she&#039;s even warning others to steer clear of the institution, even when they feel the twinges of love. Perhaps she&#039;ll recommend going for more short term puppy-love fueled fuck fests instead :) The single friend she talks about in the story seems to be the only one who actually likes her life -- and the only one ever getting laid (except Tsing-Loh in her extramarital affair).

Relatedly: Just got my issue of Time magazine today. Cover story: &quot;Unfaithfully Yours: Infidelity is eroding our most sacred institution. How to make marriage matter again.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who missed the <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200907/divorce" rel="nofollow">Tsing Loh article, here it is</a> in The Atlantic. She&#8217;s had an affair and is getting divorced &#8212; and recommends you not get married:</p>
<p>&#8220;To work, to parent, to housekeep, to be the ones who schedule “date night,” only to be reprimanded in the home by male kitchen bitches, and then, in the bedroom, to be ignored—it’s a bum deal.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure she said what you (peterb) quoted tongue in cheek &#8212; and in fact if you read the article, she provides pretty good proof about how it is in fact a societal trend. I think the point she&#8217;s making is that yes, marriage takes work &#8212; but is it worth the work it takes? </p>
<p>She cites a Rutgers study that says only 38 percent of married people in America describe themselves as happy. The study I cite above says fewer than half are getting laid. If getting married means you&#8217;re most likely to end up unhappy and, barring an affair, practically celibate, then why take the leap? </p>
<p>I think she makes a pretty damn good point &#8212; and that she&#8217;s actually not doing what you say you dislike: plunging headlong into another marriage. In fact, she&#8217;s even warning others to steer clear of the institution, even when they feel the twinges of love. Perhaps she&#8217;ll recommend going for more short term puppy-love fueled fuck fests instead :) The single friend she talks about in the story seems to be the only one who actually likes her life &#8212; and the only one ever getting laid (except Tsing-Loh in her extramarital affair).</p>
<p>Relatedly: Just got my issue of Time magazine today. Cover story: &#8220;Unfaithfully Yours: Infidelity is eroding our most sacred institution. How to make marriage matter again.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: peterb</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/clicklist-sex-starved-spouses-and-other-old-news/comment-page-1/#comment-448732</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tsing-Loh article was fascinating, to me, because it seems to suffer from the absolutely standard Baby Boomer disease:  &quot;I have this problem.  How can I construct a justification to blame this problem on Society, instead of actually looking within myself and dealing with my own issues?&quot;

While I don&#039;t want to kick a man (or woman) while she&#039;s down, the fundamental truth is that people, like money, rice, and cotton, are essentially fungible commodities.  I would hold more respect for those who left their longtime husbands or wives if they did not immediately plunge into the very next doomed marriage afterwards.  Long-term relationships are not the same thing as infatuations, and being pissed off at the institution of marriage for not being a constant puppy-love fueled fuck-fest is like being pissed off at a squash for not being a steak.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;peterb’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://tleaves.com/2009/06/19/premises-arent-books/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Premises Aren’t Books&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tsing-Loh article was fascinating, to me, because it seems to suffer from the absolutely standard Baby Boomer disease:  &#8220;I have this problem.  How can I construct a justification to blame this problem on Society, instead of actually looking within myself and dealing with my own issues?&#8221;</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t want to kick a man (or woman) while she&#8217;s down, the fundamental truth is that people, like money, rice, and cotton, are essentially fungible commodities.  I would hold more respect for those who left their longtime husbands or wives if they did not immediately plunge into the very next doomed marriage afterwards.  Long-term relationships are not the same thing as infatuations, and being pissed off at the institution of marriage for not being a constant puppy-love fueled fuck-fest is like being pissed off at a squash for not being a steak.</p>
<p><abbr><em>peterb’s last blog post..<a href="http://tleaves.com/2009/06/19/premises-arent-books/" rel="nofollow">Premises Aren’t Books</a></em></abbr></p>
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