Comments on: Clicklist: Thanksgiving and the vegetarian http://greenlagirl.com/clicklist-thanksgiving-and-the-vegetarian/ Urban environmental lifestyle blog in Los Angeles Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:11:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Gary Kavanagh http://greenlagirl.com/clicklist-thanksgiving-and-the-vegetarian/comment-page-1/#comment-387750 Gary Kavanagh Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:09:41 +0000 http://greenlagirl.com/?p=5190#comment-387750 There is a couple different ones, like Vegan Outreach is another, but they are mostly low key, while PETA is obviously very loud and controversial. PETA gets the media attention, but I don't know how good that does when it mostly makes people afraid of us. There is a couple different ones, like Vegan Outreach is another, but they are mostly low key, while PETA is obviously very loud and controversial. PETA gets the media attention, but I don’t know how good that does when it mostly makes people afraid of us.

]]> By: Siel http://greenlagirl.com/clicklist-thanksgiving-and-the-vegetarian/comment-page-1/#comment-387579 Siel Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:16:23 +0000 http://greenlagirl.com/?p=5190#comment-387579 Interesting! It's a little unfortunate I've never heard of Vegan Action until now -- Interesting! It’s a little unfortunate I’ve never heard of Vegan Action until now –

]]> By: Gary Kavanagh http://greenlagirl.com/clicklist-thanksgiving-and-the-vegetarian/comment-page-1/#comment-387111 Gary Kavanagh Mon, 24 Nov 2008 02:12:09 +0000 http://greenlagirl.com/?p=5190#comment-387111 I haven't really been following the vegan org thing, but here is one besides PETA called Vegan Action, that is a lot less antagonistic. http://www.vegan.org I haven’t really been following the vegan org thing, but here is one besides PETA called Vegan Action, that is a lot less antagonistic.

http://www.vegan.org

]]> By: Siel http://greenlagirl.com/clicklist-thanksgiving-and-the-vegetarian/comment-page-1/#comment-387061 Siel Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:57:11 +0000 http://greenlagirl.com/?p=5190#comment-387061 It's a little sad that PETA's so closely tied to veganism in the public imagination. Is there a more sensible org that vegans can organize around? It’s a little sad that PETA’s so closely tied to veganism in the public imagination. Is there a more sensible org that vegans can organize around?

]]> By: Kim Woodbridge http://greenlagirl.com/clicklist-thanksgiving-and-the-vegetarian/comment-page-1/#comment-386954 Kim Woodbridge Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:04:30 +0000 http://greenlagirl.com/?p=5190#comment-386954 I tend to get bummed out around Thanksgiving when I think about all of the turkeys. Gary is exactly right about PETA. Shock value can be effective but you aren't going to change anyone by bashing them over the head with your point of view. I've found a gentler method works better - have people try to reduce the amount of meat they consume, have them read about how it's better for the environment, etc. To me PETA are like the crazed religious fundamentalists who rant at you but only end up turning your away rather than changing your mind or making you think. I tend to get bummed out around Thanksgiving when I think about all of the turkeys.

Gary is exactly right about PETA. Shock value can be effective but you aren’t going to change anyone by bashing them over the head with your point of view. I’ve found a gentler method works better – have people try to reduce the amount of meat they consume, have them read about how it’s better for the environment, etc. To me PETA are like the crazed religious fundamentalists who rant at you but only end up turning your away rather than changing your mind or making you think.

]]> By: Gary Kavanagh http://greenlagirl.com/clicklist-thanksgiving-and-the-vegetarian/comment-page-1/#comment-386463 Gary Kavanagh Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:25:53 +0000 http://greenlagirl.com/?p=5190#comment-386463 Yeah the sexism thing was when I completely lost all respect for them as an organization. You don't make friends with those who are liberal and possibly considering a veggie lifestyle by objectifying women and raising red flags for feminists. PETA goes for shock value and I think mostly ends up shocking people into thinking vegetarians are bunch of ass holes. They get more media attention because of it, but it's not the kind of media attention that benefits the cause. Yeah the sexism thing was when I completely lost all respect for them as an organization. You don’t make friends with those who are liberal and possibly considering a veggie lifestyle by objectifying women and raising red flags for feminists. PETA goes for shock value and I think mostly ends up shocking people into thinking vegetarians are bunch of ass holes. They get more media attention because of it, but it’s not the kind of media attention that benefits the cause.

]]> By: Siel http://greenlagirl.com/clicklist-thanksgiving-and-the-vegetarian/comment-page-1/#comment-386445 Siel Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:52:20 +0000 http://greenlagirl.com/?p=5190#comment-386445 Yum -- mushrooms! I totally agree about PETA. That org thinks anything -- <a href="http://greenlagirl.com/2008/07/18/clicklist-cheap-tricks/" rel="nofollow">including blatant sexism</a> -- is okay if it might get them attention. Totally fucked up. Vegans deserve better advocates. Yum — mushrooms! I totally agree about PETA. That org thinks anything — including blatant sexism — is okay if it might get them attention. Totally fucked up. Vegans deserve better advocates.

]]> By: Gary Kavanagh http://greenlagirl.com/clicklist-thanksgiving-and-the-vegetarian/comment-page-1/#comment-386439 Gary Kavanagh Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:36:47 +0000 http://greenlagirl.com/?p=5190#comment-386439 PETA is full of crap generally. I'm vegan but I think they are very poor at making the case for veggie living, and if they are really promoting plastic wish bones, then that is further proof of their incompetence. We need to move past always pretending like it's still meat eating with fake wishbones and turkey shaped tofu. Thanks Giving is about sharing food, family and community, it's not about turkey as much as we like to plaster turkey cut outs on everything. My personal favorite main dish for Thanks Giving is a nice big stuffed portobello mushroom. PETA is full of crap generally. I’m vegan but I think they are very poor at making the case for veggie living, and if they are really promoting plastic wish bones, then that is further proof of their incompetence.

We need to move past always pretending like it’s still meat eating with fake wishbones and turkey shaped tofu. Thanks Giving is about sharing food, family and community, it’s not about turkey as much as we like to plaster turkey cut outs on everything.

My personal favorite main dish for Thanks Giving is a nice big stuffed portobello mushroom.

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