Comments on: Corporate Social Irresponsibility http://greenlagirl.com/corporate-social-irresponsibility/ Urban environmental lifestyle blog in Los Angeles Tue, 22 May 2012 01:46:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Rodney North http://greenlagirl.com/corporate-social-irresponsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-30098 Rodney North Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:57:08 +0000 http://greenlagirl.com/2006/12/19/corporate-social-irresponsibility/#comment-30098 Let's not forget how corporations like to hold up their "codes of conduct" as evidence that they're not cutting ethical or environmental corners, and that they're adhering to a higher standard BUT then later - when push comes to shove they will tell you (and as few other people as possible) that "oh, sorry, those are just GOALS we AIM for. You weren't meant to think we actually MEET those standards." This is literally what happened in the last couple of months with the law suit by the ILRF against Nestle (& Cargill & ADM) over their sourcing of cocoa from the Ivory Coast. I think Siel has the original ILRF press release about this. Let’s not forget how corporations like to hold up their “codes of conduct” as evidence that they’re not cutting ethical or environmental corners, and that they’re adhering to a higher standard BUT then later – when push comes to shove they will tell you (and as few other people as possible) that “oh, sorry, those are just GOALS we AIM for. You weren’t meant to think we actually MEET those standards.”
This is literally what happened in the last couple of months with the law suit by the ILRF against Nestle (& Cargill & ADM) over their sourcing of cocoa from the Ivory Coast. I think Siel has the original ILRF press release about this.

]]> By: Johan http://greenlagirl.com/corporate-social-irresponsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-29703 Johan Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:31:16 +0000 http://greenlagirl.com/2006/12/19/corporate-social-irresponsibility/#comment-29703 what do all these voluntary CSR schemes entail? free lunch breaks? i guess going straight for the <a HREF="http://www.unhchr.ch/udhr/lang/eng.htm" rel="nofollow">Universal Declaration of Human Rights</a> would be way too much to ask for? do these CSR schemes entail 3rd body certification or is up to anyone and say: "hey, we are in the scheme"? but then even if it is 3rd body certification if the rules are watered down by industry led organisation the 3rd body certification does not really mean anything ... and yes the wider problem is the lack of HR in national legislation and of course putting it into practise ... that is why we have fair trade, isnt it so? what do all these voluntary CSR schemes entail?
free lunch breaks?

i guess going straight for the Universal Declaration of Human Rights would be way too much to ask for?

do these CSR schemes entail 3rd body certification or is up to anyone and say: “hey, we are in the scheme”? but then even if it is 3rd body certification if the rules are watered down by industry led organisation the 3rd body certification does not really mean anything …

and yes the wider problem is the lack of HR in national legislation and of course putting it into practise … that is why we have fair trade, isnt it so?

]]> By: Siel http://greenlagirl.com/corporate-social-irresponsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-29636 Siel Tue, 19 Dec 2006 04:12:51 +0000 http://greenlagirl.com/2006/12/19/corporate-social-irresponsibility/#comment-29636 No kidding! I just spoke with an editor of a green pub who actually had no idea that CAFE practices was a program for Starbucks and Starbucks only -- He thought that CAFE practices were industry-wide standards! Argh! Add to that all the confusion re: Rainforest Alliance, Smithsonian, etc. etc., and the avg. consumer's gotta put in some serious research time trying to buy good coffee -- No kidding! I just spoke with an editor of a green pub who actually had no idea that CAFE practices was a program for Starbucks and Starbucks only — He thought that CAFE practices were industry-wide standards! Argh!

Add to that all the confusion re: Rainforest Alliance, Smithsonian, etc. etc., and the avg. consumer’s gotta put in some serious research time trying to buy good coffee –

]]> By: Fletch http://greenlagirl.com/corporate-social-irresponsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-29613 Fletch Tue, 19 Dec 2006 01:41:09 +0000 http://greenlagirl.com/2006/12/19/corporate-social-irresponsibility/#comment-29613 <i>Unfortunately, one feature of voluntary codes of conduct is that companies can pick and choose the standards to which they adhere, particularly if consumers are confused about the basic differences.</i> Sounds like Starbucks C.A.F.E. standards to me. Unfortunately, one feature of voluntary codes of conduct is that companies can pick and choose the standards to which they adhere, particularly if consumers are confused about the basic differences.

Sounds like Starbucks C.A.F.E. standards to me.

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