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	<title>Comments on: Eating local in a drought: Should we buy California rice?</title>
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		<title>By: Siel</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/eating-local-in-a-drought-should-we-buy-california-rice/comment-page-1/#comment-446838</link>
		<dc:creator>Siel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I really don&#039;t think not eating local&#039;s the answer -- whether for rice or anything else. And even though rice is water intensive, I&#039;m not saying we shouldn&#039;t grow it at all in California. I am, however, rather upset that most of the Cali rice is grown not for Californians or even Americans but for Asia! We simply don&#039;t have enough water to be exporting large quantities of it to Asia --

I&#039;d love to see figures like how much water&#039;d be saved in Cali farming if we simply only produced food for the U.S. Is it possible that we could be water-sufficient if we just stopped sending it via the virtual water trade to Europe and Asia?

mel -- Thanks for the links to the resources! I&#039;ve added them to my reading list :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I really don&#8217;t think not eating local&#8217;s the answer &#8212; whether for rice or anything else. And even though rice is water intensive, I&#8217;m not saying we shouldn&#8217;t grow it at all in California. I am, however, rather upset that most of the Cali rice is grown not for Californians or even Americans but for Asia! We simply don&#8217;t have enough water to be exporting large quantities of it to Asia &#8211;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see figures like how much water&#8217;d be saved in Cali farming if we simply only produced food for the U.S. Is it possible that we could be water-sufficient if we just stopped sending it via the virtual water trade to Europe and Asia?</p>
<p>mel &#8212; Thanks for the links to the resources! I&#8217;ve added them to my reading list :)</p>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/eating-local-in-a-drought-should-we-buy-california-rice/comment-page-1/#comment-446822</link>
		<dc:creator>mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, rice is most certainly not the most practical crop to be growing here in CA.  Far too water intensive for our available natural resources.  

As far as grains go, wheat is a much better alternative here - and I don&#039;t mean the wheat way we&#039;re growing it now. 100 years ago, the San Fernando Valley was the largest dry wheat farming operation in the world. Dry farming techniques (http://tinyurl.com/mbgxna) are beginning to make something of a comeback - my apple grower farms this way and his apples are the tastiest around.

And of course, the grain going to feed livestock that don&#039;t naturally eat gain and should really be pasture fed,  grain that could otherwise feed humans more nutritionally - that&#039;s an obscenity. But that&#039;s another thread. 

Eating locally produced grain should be easier in CA, but I&#039;m concerned enough about GMO and pesticides to get my grain from the organic and/or small-scale farmers I trust like Bob&#039;s Red Mill in OR, or even Anson Mills in SC. 

As far as water goes, we all need to get serious about the realities of our means. Both urbanites and farmers can do much. much better in terms of conservation, but better habits will only take hold, I believe, if people really understand where our water comes from, what we do and don&#039;t have to work with, and what the true costs of water are. 

Desal is just another expensive engineering &#039;fix&#039; that keeps us from confronting the truth. 

Peter Gleick is the best resource on water in the state. Here&#039;s a link to his blog: http://tinyurl.com/caftaf

Jill Richardson over at La Vida Locavore is an awesome resource on food issues: http://tinyurl.com/5b7v93</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, rice is most certainly not the most practical crop to be growing here in CA.  Far too water intensive for our available natural resources.  </p>
<p>As far as grains go, wheat is a much better alternative here &#8211; and I don&#8217;t mean the wheat way we&#8217;re growing it now. 100 years ago, the San Fernando Valley was the largest dry wheat farming operation in the world. Dry farming techniques (<a href="http://tinyurl.com/mbgxna" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/mbgxna</a>) are beginning to make something of a comeback &#8211; my apple grower farms this way and his apples are the tastiest around.</p>
<p>And of course, the grain going to feed livestock that don&#8217;t naturally eat gain and should really be pasture fed,  grain that could otherwise feed humans more nutritionally &#8211; that&#8217;s an obscenity. But that&#8217;s another thread. </p>
<p>Eating locally produced grain should be easier in CA, but I&#8217;m concerned enough about GMO and pesticides to get my grain from the organic and/or small-scale farmers I trust like Bob&#8217;s Red Mill in OR, or even Anson Mills in SC. </p>
<p>As far as water goes, we all need to get serious about the realities of our means. Both urbanites and farmers can do much. much better in terms of conservation, but better habits will only take hold, I believe, if people really understand where our water comes from, what we do and don&#8217;t have to work with, and what the true costs of water are. </p>
<p>Desal is just another expensive engineering &#8216;fix&#8217; that keeps us from confronting the truth. </p>
<p>Peter Gleick is the best resource on water in the state. Here&#8217;s a link to his blog: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/caftaf" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/caftaf</a></p>
<p>Jill Richardson over at La Vida Locavore is an awesome resource on food issues: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/5b7v93" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5b7v93</a></p>
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		<title>By: Danny Bradfield</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/eating-local-in-a-drought-should-we-buy-california-rice/comment-page-1/#comment-446809</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Bradfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very interesting post.  Until I moved to Long Beach a year and a half ago, I was living amidst the Sutter County rice fields.  I wasn&#039;t a farmer, but a farmers&#039; pastor--and frequently got huge gift boxes of rice as Christmas presents.

The farmers up there were always talking about how difficult it is to be a farmer.  Amazingly, many of the rice farms are still family-owned or operated.  They&#039;re good people, though hardly what one would call environmentalists.

I don&#039;t know if California should switch from rice to other less water-intensive crops or not.  Perhaps.  But as long as California is growing rice, it seems to me that we should be buying California rice.  The only rice I could find at the supermarket last week was from India or Thailand--shipping it all the way here when there is rice already here doesn&#039;t make any sense to me.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Danny Bradfield’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://fieldofdandelions.blogspot.com/2009/06/blog-post.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bridge to Nowhere&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very interesting post.  Until I moved to Long Beach a year and a half ago, I was living amidst the Sutter County rice fields.  I wasn&#8217;t a farmer, but a farmers&#8217; pastor&#8211;and frequently got huge gift boxes of rice as Christmas presents.</p>
<p>The farmers up there were always talking about how difficult it is to be a farmer.  Amazingly, many of the rice farms are still family-owned or operated.  They&#8217;re good people, though hardly what one would call environmentalists.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if California should switch from rice to other less water-intensive crops or not.  Perhaps.  But as long as California is growing rice, it seems to me that we should be buying California rice.  The only rice I could find at the supermarket last week was from India or Thailand&#8211;shipping it all the way here when there is rice already here doesn&#8217;t make any sense to me.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Danny Bradfield’s last blog post..<a href="http://fieldofdandelions.blogspot.com/2009/06/blog-post.html" rel="nofollow">Bridge to Nowhere</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Rachel (Heart of Light)</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/eating-local-in-a-drought-should-we-buy-california-rice/comment-page-1/#comment-446776</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel (Heart of Light)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I were better educated about food issues, but I am sorely lacking. I do know that we could do a much, much better job with watering intelligently. I think eventually, we need to bring the cost of water up significantly, to force farmers to invest in water saving technologies and techniques (soil sensors that keep track of actual water content across a field are available, and they allow for very selective watering, just as one example) and then increase the price of food accordingly. 

I know that no one wants to increase the cost of food, but we spend such a small percentage of our incomes on food, and it seems strange to me. At some point, we&#039;re going to have to accept higher food prices, hopefully in exchange for food that is more sustainable.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rachel (Heart of Light)’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://heart-of-light.blogspot.com/2009/06/weekend-briefly_15.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The weekend, briefly&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I were better educated about food issues, but I am sorely lacking. I do know that we could do a much, much better job with watering intelligently. I think eventually, we need to bring the cost of water up significantly, to force farmers to invest in water saving technologies and techniques (soil sensors that keep track of actual water content across a field are available, and they allow for very selective watering, just as one example) and then increase the price of food accordingly. </p>
<p>I know that no one wants to increase the cost of food, but we spend such a small percentage of our incomes on food, and it seems strange to me. At some point, we&#8217;re going to have to accept higher food prices, hopefully in exchange for food that is more sustainable.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Rachel (Heart of Light)’s last blog post..<a href="http://heart-of-light.blogspot.com/2009/06/weekend-briefly_15.html" rel="nofollow">The weekend, briefly</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Chanco Brothers</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/eating-local-in-a-drought-should-we-buy-california-rice/comment-page-1/#comment-446775</link>
		<dc:creator>Chanco Brothers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very good blog post. My brain will be contemplating water and cal-rice for weeks to come.  The distribution of water around the world is totally imbalanced. Stories of people walking for hours to get water abound in rural and third world countries. Then contrast that with the global craving of people for sushi made with cal-rice. Aside from the carbs, I will still be eating california rice for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very good blog post. My brain will be contemplating water and cal-rice for weeks to come.  The distribution of water around the world is totally imbalanced. Stories of people walking for hours to get water abound in rural and third world countries. Then contrast that with the global craving of people for sushi made with cal-rice. Aside from the carbs, I will still be eating california rice for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Woodbridge</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/eating-local-in-a-drought-should-we-buy-california-rice/comment-page-1/#comment-446763</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Woodbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I haven&#039;t put too much thought into water issues when I purchase food because of where I live.  It seems that we have plenty in this area - especially since it never stops raining.  Of course, I&#039;m not aware of any rice being grown in Penn.  

Is there anywhere that rice is grown where they get enough water to make it sustainable or does it just use too much water?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I haven&#8217;t put too much thought into water issues when I purchase food because of where I live.  It seems that we have plenty in this area &#8211; especially since it never stops raining.  Of course, I&#8217;m not aware of any rice being grown in Penn.  </p>
<p>Is there anywhere that rice is grown where they get enough water to make it sustainable or does it just use too much water?</p>
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