In any case, Treehugger also recently posted about a Canadian version of green power called Bullfrog Power . A Google of “green power” (in quotes) will get hits from Montana to Florida and back again.

As an aside, Pasadena is not a suburb of LA. Since it’s founding in the 1880s Pasadena has been a metropolitan center in its own right. This is one of the reasons we are a desirable place for fans of a sustainable lifestyle, and the home of the founder of New Urbanism. Pretty much everything you could want is within a 15 minute bike-ride, from entertainment to jobs, Universities to orphanages, corporate headquarters to artistic enclaves and, and, well a whole bunch of stuff of other cool stuff.

I could go on and on (grin) but will spare you the infinite virtues of Pasadena. For now. Mostly, though puh-leeze don’t call us a suburb (eye roll)(grin).

Also, I hear ya about the bummer of renting. I’m pretty sure our refrigerator accounts for about half of my monthly electric bill, which luckily is only about $25-$30 a month. I actually informed my property manager that the fridge was running way too often, and wasn’t even keeping stuff that cold, and he told me that they wouldn’t do anything about it until it flat out died. bah.

But who pays for example for the RETIRE program there in LA? Are rebates only redeemable towards new items of the same sort? Are these programs sustainable – are the waste disposal externalities visible to the customer somehow so they have an effect of steering the market towards less waste generation?

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