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	<title>Comments on: Pick your cause wisely: Fair trade v. Organic?</title>
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		<title>By: Robert 'Groby' Blum</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/pick-your-cause-wisely-fair-trade-v-organic/comment-page-1/#comment-307</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert 'Groby' Blum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s indeed a problem - if you are not a mega-corp, you *are* struggling. No way around that. I&#039;ll spare you an endless rant on that topic (unless you are *really* bored ;) and will just let you know that those of us who like to buy their triple-cert&#039;ed coffee in person can do so, too. Just discovered that Trader Joe&#039;s has shade-grown, fair-trade, organic Coffee. And, to make my life perfect, it&#039;s Ethiopian! (At least for me, Southamerican coffees have the tendency to develop a slight ashtray-aftertaste if they sit a bit too long. African works much better for me)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I have no idea how it tastes, though - haven&#039;t opened the can yet. But it&#039;s proof that Starbucks could get all three groups in a single coffee. Should reduce the waste they get from all the french-pressed stuff, ne? (that nobody makes, but if they did..)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s indeed a problem &#8211; if you are not a mega-corp, you *are* struggling. No way around that. I&#8217;ll spare you an endless rant on that topic (unless you are *really* bored ;) and will just let you know that those of us who like to buy their triple-cert&#8217;ed coffee in person can do so, too. Just discovered that Trader Joe&#8217;s has shade-grown, fair-trade, organic Coffee. And, to make my life perfect, it&#8217;s Ethiopian! (At least for me, Southamerican coffees have the tendency to develop a slight ashtray-aftertaste if they sit a bit too long. African works much better for me)</p>
<p>I have no idea how it tastes, though &#8211; haven&#8217;t opened the can yet. But it&#8217;s proof that Starbucks could get all three groups in a single coffee. Should reduce the waste they get from all the french-pressed stuff, ne? (that nobody makes, but if they did..)</p>
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		<title>By: Siel</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/pick-your-cause-wisely-fair-trade-v-organic/comment-page-1/#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>Siel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah -- but is it triple CERTIFIED? I&#039;ve written about &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://greenlagirl.blogspot.com/2005/08/looking-for-few-good-coffee-beans.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TJs fair trade coffees before&lt;/A&gt; -- and while a couple are double certified, I don&#039;t think any of them have the shade grown certification.&lt;BR/&gt; &lt;BR/&gt;But this Ethiopian blend sounds new -- so maybe TJ&#039;s has indeed added a triple cert blend?&lt;BR/&gt; &lt;BR/&gt;I dunno -- I think it must be pretty tough for small companies to put all the money, effort, and energy into getting triple certified. With TJs, since they generally do good, I&#039;m willing to trust the stuff&#039;s shade grown, certification or not :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah &#8212; but is it triple CERTIFIED? I&#8217;ve written about <a HREF="http://greenlagirl.blogspot.com/2005/08/looking-for-few-good-coffee-beans.html" REL="nofollow">TJs fair trade coffees before</a> &#8212; and while a couple are double certified, I don&#8217;t think any of them have the shade grown certification.</p>
<p>But this Ethiopian blend sounds new &#8212; so maybe TJ&#8217;s has indeed added a triple cert blend?</p>
<p>I dunno &#8212; I think it must be pretty tough for small companies to put all the money, effort, and energy into getting triple certified. With TJs, since they generally do good, I&#8217;m willing to trust the stuff&#8217;s shade grown, certification or not :)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m from Seattle.  I used to love Starbucks during the 80&#039;s.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Now I wouldn&#039;t set foot in one of their many sterile corporate establishments.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;They may brag about selling &quot;Free Trade Certified Coffee&quot;, as if they are &quot;doing the right thing&quot;, but they have no problem moving in across the street from old established coffee houses in America and driving them under in droves.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Go to the PCCP co-op in Seattle if you want organically grown, environmentally friendly coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from Seattle.  I used to love Starbucks during the 80&#8242;s.</p>
<p>Now I wouldn&#8217;t set foot in one of their many sterile corporate establishments.</p>
<p>They may brag about selling &#8220;Free Trade Certified Coffee&#8221;, as if they are &#8220;doing the right thing&#8221;, but they have no problem moving in across the street from old established coffee houses in America and driving them under in droves.</p>
<p>Go to the PCCP co-op in Seattle if you want organically grown, environmentally friendly coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert 'Groby' Blum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert 'Groby' Blum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I spoke too soon. While it&#039;s technically triple cert&#039;ed, it has two organic certificates (QAI and USDA) and the fair trade cert. So, the shade-grown stuff is still uncertain.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#039;ll have more info on the actual taste tomorrow - if I get out of bed early enough to actually make coffee ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I spoke too soon. While it&#8217;s technically triple cert&#8217;ed, it has two organic certificates (QAI and USDA) and the fair trade cert. So, the shade-grown stuff is still uncertain.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have more info on the actual taste tomorrow &#8211; if I get out of bed early enough to actually make coffee ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Fayers</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/pick-your-cause-wisely-fair-trade-v-organic/comment-page-1/#comment-311</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Fayers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn&#039;t noticed the Welsh farmers call for Fair Trade milk, shameful really given that I live in Cardiff.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Another oddity is that the majority of &quot;welsh milk&quot; now has to travel across the border into England to be processed, before being transported back to be sold in Welsh supermarkets.  This is because the &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/4413317.stm&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;major creamery in West Wales closed&lt;/A&gt; earlier this year, partly due to the low prices paid by supermarkets for the milk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t noticed the Welsh farmers call for Fair Trade milk, shameful really given that I live in Cardiff.</p>
<p>Another oddity is that the majority of &#8220;welsh milk&#8221; now has to travel across the border into England to be processed, before being transported back to be sold in Welsh supermarkets.  This is because the <a HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/4413317.stm" REL="nofollow">major creamery in West Wales closed</a> earlier this year, partly due to the low prices paid by supermarkets for the milk.</p>
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