Comments on: Tuesday questions: A carless culture

By: Siel

Siel — Thu, 27 Jul 2006 00:53:40 +0000

Thanks Frred! And I like what yr trying to do with MetroRiderLA :) Let’s keep in touch and collaborate –

By: Fred Camino

Fred Camino — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 00:07:57 +0000

I really like this “careless culture” series you are doing. It’s something we really need, and something I’ve been trying to promote with my blog, MetroRiderLA. The whole goal of my blog is similar to the question you post here which is how do we make public transit desirable? My idea is that we need to create a lifestyle around it, we all just need to ride and and then come together and talk about it. Not everything desirable is perfect and beautiful, and god knows the MTA system is often far from perfect and beatiful. But sometimes it does work, and when it works it’s really nice and you see what could be possible. I think it just takes making the jump and then talking about it. You have to realize that there will be sacrifices and that it wont be a flawless way to get around, but there is no flawless way to get around, everything is a give and take. But once you make the jump and make it work for you, soon your friends will be doing it too, and then their friends and so on and so forth. Suddenly you’ll be talking about buses and trains at parties, telling stories, the things you like the things you hate… a pulbic tranist lifestyle will form.

I urge everyone who is interested to get involved. Take a look at some of the links on MetroRiderLA, or even better, contribute to the blog, i really want it to be a resource for everyone.

Thanks again for this series.

By: Siel

Siel — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 02:38:36 +0000

Wow! Such awesome ideas here! If only we made up the MTA! :P

Okay — I think that to continue this convo, it’ll be important that we separate these ideas out — you know, between walking, biking, and public transportation, at the very least.

Will work on 3 new posts accordingly, incorporating the ideas named here, to open it up for further brainsroming. You guys rock!

By: simon

simon — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:52:13 +0000

can’t find the source I guess it is in german. However this article quotes it. http://money.guardian.co.uk/ethicalliving/story/0,,1719762,00.html
the line in question.
Meanwhile, a study in 1994 by the Environment and Forecasting Institute in Heidelberg, Germany, looked at the full impact of a “medium-sized car” driven for 13,000km a year for 10 years. It concluded that the extraction of the raw materials for each car alone produced 25 tonnes of waste and 922m cubic metres of “polluted air”. This compared with 2,040m cubic metres of polluted air for the full life-cycle of the vehicle, meaning that the manufacturing stage was roughly responsible for 45%.

By: Chris Martell

Chris Martell — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:13:38 +0000

To Simon:

This is fascinating. Do you have a source, or link to this study, I would really like to learn more. Thanks!