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		<title>By: Siel</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/tuesday-questions-shady-balcony/comment-page-1/#comment-430797</link>
		<dc:creator>Siel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really appreciate everyone&#039;s input and advice! I &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.filterforgood.com/blog/?p=1446&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;created a map plan&lt;/a&gt; based on your advice -- Check it out :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really appreciate everyone&#8217;s input and advice! I <a href="http://www.filterforgood.com/blog/?p=1446" rel="nofollow">created a map plan</a> based on your advice &#8212; Check it out :)</p>
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		<title>By: Gernot</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/tuesday-questions-shady-balcony/comment-page-1/#comment-427774</link>
		<dc:creator>Gernot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey girl - you have never heard of shadegrown coffee? ;-)
Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey girl &#8211; you have never heard of shadegrown coffee? ;-)<br />
Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Linton</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/tuesday-questions-shady-balcony/comment-page-1/#comment-427527</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Linton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The earlier posters are correct. You should be able to grow things where you eat the leaves - lettuce, mizuna, chard, kale, arugula... when it&#039;s warm/hot out, basil.  Possible other stuff might be onions, garlic, chard, sweet peas.

I suspect that you could get cherry tomatoes to grow there - in the sunniest spot, with branches that hang outside the balcony. Cherry tomatoes grow almost like weeds - fairly easy. I think you might have started them too late in the year. Best to plant them in March-April... once it starts to warm up, but before it gets hot.  Suggest getting cherry tomato starters this week - get them into the ground this month.  Plant in a fairly large pot - at least 5 gallons!  Good luck!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Joe Linton’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://lacreekfreak.wordpress.com/2009/04/01/whiskys-for-drinkingdesals-for-fightin/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Whisky’s for drinkin’…desal’s for fightin’&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The earlier posters are correct. You should be able to grow things where you eat the leaves &#8211; lettuce, mizuna, chard, kale, arugula&#8230; when it&#8217;s warm/hot out, basil.  Possible other stuff might be onions, garlic, chard, sweet peas.</p>
<p>I suspect that you could get cherry tomatoes to grow there &#8211; in the sunniest spot, with branches that hang outside the balcony. Cherry tomatoes grow almost like weeds &#8211; fairly easy. I think you might have started them too late in the year. Best to plant them in March-April&#8230; once it starts to warm up, but before it gets hot.  Suggest getting cherry tomato starters this week &#8211; get them into the ground this month.  Plant in a fairly large pot &#8211; at least 5 gallons!  Good luck!</p>
<p><abbr><em>Joe Linton’s last blog post..<a href="http://lacreekfreak.wordpress.com/2009/04/01/whiskys-for-drinkingdesals-for-fightin/" rel="nofollow">Whisky’s for drinkin’…desal’s for fightin’</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Adriana</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/tuesday-questions-shady-balcony/comment-page-1/#comment-427502</link>
		<dc:creator>Adriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a great list of shade loving veggies from In the Garden Online:

http://www.inthegardenonline.com/picks_10vegforshadeC21.htm

I had great success with cailiflower, chard, lettuce, broccoli raab but the aphids won that battle.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Adriana’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://victoryhomegarden.blogspot.com/2009/04/whats-for-lunch.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What&#039;s For Lunch?!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a great list of shade loving veggies from In the Garden Online:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.inthegardenonline.com/picks_10vegforshadeC21.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.inthegardenonline.com/picks_10vegforshadeC21.htm</a></p>
<p>I had great success with cailiflower, chard, lettuce, broccoli raab but the aphids won that battle.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Adriana’s last blog post..<a href="http://victoryhomegarden.blogspot.com/2009/04/whats-for-lunch.html" rel="nofollow">What&#8217;s For Lunch?!</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Plangarden</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/tuesday-questions-shady-balcony/comment-page-1/#comment-427456</link>
		<dc:creator>Plangarden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea, Meredith &amp; Cassandra!  I haven&#039;t tried the upside down approach but found these configurations.  DIY approach is great but I hear they&#039;re now selling the systems for $10 at some places:  http://bit.ly/t38bl

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Plangarden’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://plangarden.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/starting-hard-seeds/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Starting “Hard Seeds”&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea, Meredith &amp; Cassandra!  I haven&#8217;t tried the upside down approach but found these configurations.  DIY approach is great but I hear they&#8217;re now selling the systems for $10 at some places:  <a href="http://bit.ly/t38bl" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/t38bl</a></p>
<p><abbr><em>Plangarden’s last blog post..<a href="http://plangarden.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/starting-hard-seeds/" rel="nofollow">Starting “Hard Seeds”</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Cassandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try hanging an upside-down container in that sunny corner (right where your table is...hm.) for the tomatoes - I bet you could still get some nice ones.  Cherry tomatoes also seem to be the hardiest and most tolerant of variations in sunlight - the same goes for yellow tomatoes, I think. 

Swiss Chard is wonderful, and comes in many many colors.  Broccoli will work, as will lots of different herbs (which love the Santa Monica weather).  Also take a look at peas and other beans, vine berries, and miner&#039;s lettuce.

Check this out:
http://www.pfaf.org/leaflets/ProbPlac.php

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Cassandra’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://nobodywalks.blogspot.com/2009/01/big-moveoutski.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Big Moveoutski&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try hanging an upside-down container in that sunny corner (right where your table is&#8230;hm.) for the tomatoes &#8211; I bet you could still get some nice ones.  Cherry tomatoes also seem to be the hardiest and most tolerant of variations in sunlight &#8211; the same goes for yellow tomatoes, I think. </p>
<p>Swiss Chard is wonderful, and comes in many many colors.  Broccoli will work, as will lots of different herbs (which love the Santa Monica weather).  Also take a look at peas and other beans, vine berries, and miner&#8217;s lettuce.</p>
<p>Check this out:<br />
<a href="http://www.pfaf.org/leaflets/ProbPlac.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.pfaf.org/leaflets/ProbPlac.php</a></p>
<p><abbr><em>Cassandra’s last blog post..<a href="http://nobodywalks.blogspot.com/2009/01/big-moveoutski.html" rel="nofollow">The Big Moveoutski</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in the market for one of those upside-down tomato growers. Like you, I have no sun. Just a covered front porch next to a shady patch o&#039; dirt, and a flower bed in back which also has too much shade to grow. I&#039;m hoping to hang the upside-down tomato thing of the side of my house or something.

Anyway, I also appreciate the comments with ideas in this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the market for one of those upside-down tomato growers. Like you, I have no sun. Just a covered front porch next to a shady patch o&#8217; dirt, and a flower bed in back which also has too much shade to grow. I&#8217;m hoping to hang the upside-down tomato thing of the side of my house or something.</p>
<p>Anyway, I also appreciate the comments with ideas in this post.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosengeranium (Indoor Gardener)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosengeranium (Indoor Gardener)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah! What they said! ;) Leafy vegetables stands shade better, and you can find some really interesting ones. Chard &#039;Bright lights&#039; has stems in pink, yellow and purple, which makes them decorative too.

Do you have a sunny window? Try to grow the tomatoes there. Use the variety &#039;Tom Thumb&#039; - it doesn&#039;t need pollination, you just shake the flowers a bit every day. I&#039;m into my second round and they do work out well. Count on two tomato plants per person you are growing for.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rosengeranium (Indoor Gardener)’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://indoorgardener.blogspot.com/2009/04/theyve-started-to-drink.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;They&#039;ve started to drink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah! What they said! ;) Leafy vegetables stands shade better, and you can find some really interesting ones. Chard &#8216;Bright lights&#8217; has stems in pink, yellow and purple, which makes them decorative too.</p>
<p>Do you have a sunny window? Try to grow the tomatoes there. Use the variety &#8216;Tom Thumb&#8217; &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t need pollination, you just shake the flowers a bit every day. I&#8217;m into my second round and they do work out well. Count on two tomato plants per person you are growing for.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Rosengeranium (Indoor Gardener)’s last blog post..<a href="http://indoorgardener.blogspot.com/2009/04/theyve-started-to-drink.html" rel="nofollow">They&#8217;ve started to drink</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi!

i&#039;ve been following this blog:
http://victoryhomegarden.blogspot.com/

for a bit now...she&#039;s been posting about some of the leafy greens she&#039;s been growing in the shade (she lives in LB, so similar climate to SM)...maybe you might find some tips there...

i&#039;m a first timer, myself, so i&#039;ve planted some lettuce in my more shady areas...we&#039;ll see how it goes...

i&#039;m with you on the tomato love, i&#039;ve planted 3 kinds!!...i get a lot of am sun, but no pm sun...

good luck!!  can&#039;t wait to see the progress of your balcony!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi!</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve been following this blog:<br />
<a href="http://victoryhomegarden.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://victoryhomegarden.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>for a bit now&#8230;she&#8217;s been posting about some of the leafy greens she&#8217;s been growing in the shade (she lives in LB, so similar climate to SM)&#8230;maybe you might find some tips there&#8230;</p>
<p>i&#8217;m a first timer, myself, so i&#8217;ve planted some lettuce in my more shady areas&#8230;we&#8217;ll see how it goes&#8230;</p>
<p>i&#8217;m with you on the tomato love, i&#8217;ve planted 3 kinds!!&#8230;i get a lot of am sun, but no pm sun&#8230;</p>
<p>good luck!!  can&#8217;t wait to see the progress of your balcony!</p>
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		<title>By: Plangarden</title>
		<link>http://greenlagirl.com/tuesday-questions-shady-balcony/comment-page-1/#comment-427403</link>
		<dc:creator>Plangarden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, if you REALLY want to grow tomatoes (and who doesn&#039;t!), you might inquire about signing up for a community garden.  The best place to start would be your permaculture instructor or your county extension office:  http://celosangeles.ucdavis.edu/

All the best to your gardening joys in 2009!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Plangarden’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://plangarden.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/starting-hard-seeds/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Starting “Hard Seeds”&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, if you REALLY want to grow tomatoes (and who doesn&#8217;t!), you might inquire about signing up for a community garden.  The best place to start would be your permaculture instructor or your county extension office:  <a href="http://celosangeles.ucdavis.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://celosangeles.ucdavis.edu/</a></p>
<p>All the best to your gardening joys in 2009!</p>
<p><abbr><em>Plangarden’s last blog post..<a href="http://plangarden.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/starting-hard-seeds/" rel="nofollow">Starting “Hard Seeds”</a></em></abbr></p>
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